Quest chain Released Mod. Easy Pete, if he's in the area, will get involved in the fight, and obviously the man responsible for all of this, Ringo, will also help out. After the Vault 19 Powder Gang surrendered to the NCR, they were re-incorporated into the correctional system. One may need to remove and then put the Powder Gangers faction armor back on to reset rep back to neutral, and also wait around until they no longer sense the player character, so they no longer appear as hostile. I did the mission in the first town where you kill all the powder gangers, not realizing that it would have repercussions, and now I'm vilified by the gang. Killing him (and/or the other Powder Gangers with him) will not cause any reputation loss with the Powder Gangers, and his "crew" may not turn hostile if Chavez is killed in front of them. That's just the nature of Fallout: New Vegas (even more-so than Fallout 3's system). This will knock your infamy up to a level where they won't be hostile to you yet. You don't need the Powder Gangers' help to steal everything in Goodsprings that isn't nailed down, and you benefit from keeping the doctor and shopkeeper alive so that you can get medical care and buy ammo. Technical Copyright 2023 Black Tree Gaming Ltd. All rights reserved. Can You Beat Fallout New Vegas By Killing Everyone?Mitten Squad Discord link: http://www.Mitten.Land/#MittensMojaveMassacreCheck out some of my other videos if you liked this one:Can You Beat Bioshock With Only A Wrench? Reward: Various weapons, armor, ammunition and items from dead Powder Gangers and NCR troopers. [12] The Vault 19 group plan to join the Great Khans, at the behest of their leader, Samuel Cooke, indicating some level of respect is held for the Khans.[13][14][15]. Can I wipeout Boomers and powder gangers from Mojave by nuke?I did Yes man and killed almost every faction like khans,Nuked NCR and legion,killed brotherhood of steel. https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/36219/ Me, i just would start over and not proceed the quest in goodsprings til . Upon speaking with him, you can get down to business, pressing him on acquiring some of his dynamite. The only thing I could possibly think is maybe that completing Ghost Town Gunfight is coded to always have them hate you, even at Idolized Rep, but I don't think that's a thing. Indeed, you'll first need to recruit some help. It won't. Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? It only changes depending on if you helped or betrayed Eddie during the NCRCF questline. Waited a bit and went back and everything was fine. But even if you failed at convincing everyone that you need their help, that's okay. However some members who have moved further away from the prison, such as those found at Whittaker farmstead, are significantly better armed, sometimes equipped with laser or plasma rifles. This mod is not opted-in to receive Donation Points. 20. Youll have two encounters with them in Nipton, but youve essentially neutered the faction. (Optional) Betray Eddie by offering Lieutenant Hayes assistance in retaking the Prison. Here's a quick tip for anyone playing in 2020 who finds themselves vilified with Powder Gangers before they can take a quest from Eddie (as I did and spent an hour looking for a solution). As soon as the powder ganger in the bar makes his threat to the woman, it's the strangest thing, but his head explodes. Personally I didn't know that there was any other option but to kill them all when I first played the game, I kept thinking "damn this is a hard mission for being so early in the game" as I had to use all of my ammo and dynamites to get them down. I've replayed NV multiple times and never knew the Powder Gangers had quests. Casting Call Voice ActorsCDO947214: Ellis Dufresne, Mole Rat Richard, The Mad MinotaurCellBlockPsycho: Ramirez, Greavessamlikesva: TNT TimboTenwise: Whitmeyer, Ian, Krieger, LyleJudah K: Chuy, Floyd, Field Commander 1 & 2, Med Officer Kristoffiamriverrose: Eyeteeth, Rosettarosewaterwinter: Officer Nguyen, Doc RosalindOther CreditsExploding spear mesh used with permission from Ranaark's Thundersticks.Big Earner switchblade uses a modified texture from AgeofEvolutionHQ.The code used to free crucified Powder Gangers was based off of void_gazer's Decrucifixion.The Steakmaker shotgun's concept and original texture used with permission from furrden2. Theres the kill everyone you see route where you look down at the ground everywhere like a sad loser who doesnt know to point his giant nose proudly towards the horizon like a sentient sundial, but thats boring. Convince Philip Lem or Samuel Cooke to ally with the Great Khans. Credits She'll give you three optional tasks to try to get some other people involved. Marked several NPC corpses as Quest Items, preventing them from despawning on cell reset. Once the player has killed all the fire geckos, go back to Samuel Cooke to receive some Powder Ganger fame and caps. If the Powder Gangers defeat the attackers one can speak with Eddie who will thank the player character. The second task is to "deal with" a suspicious traveling merchant residing at Jean Sky Diving. This author has not provided any additional notes regarding file permissions, This author has not credited anyone else in this file, This mod is not opted-in to receive Donation Points. In particular, a number of incomplete topics would have allowed the Courier to offer suggestions as to how Eddie could better defend the facility, including posting more guards and placing snipers on the guard towers. You won't exactly have the NCR retake it, but if you dont want to use console commands you can just pretend the NCR took it back. Killing powder gangers and feral ghouls spikes your karma so much in the other direction that you'd have to actively avoid killing any to have "stealing" to add up enough to actively count against you. Valve Corporation. Ultimately I think you are just forced to wipe them out yourself and not have the radio acknowledge it, or maybe mess around in console with the quest stages to set the quest to the stage where you raid it with NCR, but i dont know how that'll play out. Increased Nipton Medic ForceGreet Package distance, Added weapons and NPC's to appropriate Form Lists (perks, challenges). I wanna create a vegas without any gods or masters.I nuked the NCR and Legion in lonesome road dlc, killed brothehood of steel in NCR quest maybe,killed the khans. Powder Gangers appear in Fallout: New Vegas. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. i think dressing up as one helps, just avoid the guards. When dialogue ends, run out of the room so he cannot see the player character and turn hostile. FALLOUT NEW VEGAS My tips It may not be the best 1.Make sure you listen to what everybody has to say 2.Only take stuff from bodies that you need! There will be approximately eight of them to fight. Sergeant Lee and the NCR Correctional Facility Note ownerships fixed (credit to TwilightKhan and MagnuMspec), Added behavior packages to Krieger in North Vegas, Polished NPC patrol packages and spawn scripts, Edited Finale NPC factions to reduce instances of friendly fire, Boulder Beach popups should only trigger once now upon completion of the relevant skill checks. That crummy karma system sure annoyed the bejeesus outta me, so folks had a sense for what to prepare for in this incarnation of a Gamebryo Fallout release. V19 guys just wanted me to clear out some geckos in the lower level. Removed a good amount of unused space in the Westside headquarters. Editor ID Updated the mod file to an ESM. Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. Log in to view your list of favourite games. There are factions of Powder Gangers spread far along the southwestern part of the Mojave Wasteland, all the way down towards Nipton.[10]. Unfortunately, in our playthrough, we didn't have a 25 in either category, but you may be different. Just had the same issue having _Idolized_ reputation with Powder Gangers. Using this technique, one can get rid of every Powder Ganger at the NCR Correctional Facility except for Eddie and Meyers. Reduced Powder Ganger NPC count in North Vegas and Westside. Prim will throw you a party. There are people who will always recognise you. Form ID Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/44888/?tab=2&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fnewvegas%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D44888&pUp=1. Just to give some context, this is a spoiler so mute for the next 4 seconds if you care. I didnt help anyone, btw i helped ncr to protect primm so im done with primm rn, thanks for the tip again. (1) Talk to Sunny Smiles about fighting the Powder Gangers. Killing powder gangers and feral ghouls spikes your karma so much in the other direction that you'd have to actively avoid killing any to have "stealing" to add up enough to actively count against you. - More Troopers and more powder gangers at the NCRCF. (1) Talk to Sunny Smiles about fighting the Powder Gangers. They do have an ending slide though, but nothing bad happens if you wipe them out. Valve Corporation. If the prior options fail, the merchant can be killed without Karma penalty. Once the merchant has been dealt with, report back to Eddie to gain Powder Gangers fame +1. It appears that Ringo and Joe are going to come to blows soon, and obviously, you're going to be able to get involved. Given by After the majority of the Vault 19 Powder Gangers joined the Great Khans, the weaker members scattered throughout the Mojave Wasteland. Great for those who prefer to sling their dynamite than getting up close and personal. (3) (Optional) Speak with Doc Mitchell, Chet, Trudy and Easy Pete about acquiring their help. Not the most immersive, but you get used to it. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBVBrUXGpWkCan You Beat Fallout 3 as a Baby? Lee may mention reporting back to Lt. Hayes after the quest has finished, but if My Kind of Town has already been completed, he will be gone from the NCR camp at Primm. Press J to jump to the feed. He will say that the NCR is already here, and tell the player character to feel free to kill some of them on the way out. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEYakRU58_cCan You Beat Honest Hearts Without Taking Any Damage? Members FEATURES. A number of cut and partially completed dialogue options exist which point towards the final portion of the quest having had additional options for helping out. Killing him or his crew after convincing him to move on also does not cause any reputation loss with the Powder Gangers. Ramirez and Timbo have had their volume boosted. Recently I was purging the correctional facility of the Powder Gangers, and while I was doing that I took supplies from a medical box on the wall. Killing the prison/wasteland powdergangers didn't make the vault 19 powder gangers attack me on site. If I remember correctly, On the first through, I believe I only had one quest given to me to be on their good side. Some are helpful, some are annoying, and some only exist in your heart. There will be cake. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0GamZYQwvACan You Beat Skyrim With Only A Fork? If everyones gonna die, theres no reason to talk to anyone. Normal jumpsuit worn with scavenged clothing and equipment from the unfortunate travelers who came across our dear friends at the correctional facility. Though Powder Gangers almost all have Evil Karma, the larger Powder Ganger faction is not marked as Evil. This means that stealing items owned by the Powder Gangers faction will incur negative Karma. A new reformist Powder Ganger faction based in Westside, Faction presence increases as the player does quests for them, including a new store and patrols, Ties into the vanilla reputation system without locking out players. Technical Your best bet is to take refuge behind the cart in front of the Prospector Saloon, which should guard you pretty well against the gunfire from the Powder Gangers. Fallout: New Vegas Then you can walk into the visitor centor without getting attacked. If one wants to be certain to complete the quest, (and not intervene), one will have to visit each cell block, otherwise the NCR will just kill the Powder Gangers in the yard, then the Admin building. Guns, Lockpick, Medicine for skills, Ill come back to this in a second, I chose Bruiser and Fear The Reaper as my traits, and was let loose into the world. Overview Copyright 2023 Black Tree Gaming Ltd. All rights reserved. Added lip sync to some lines missing it. They are introduced in Fallout: New Vegas as a large group of escaped convicts running amok on the I-15 highway area, harassing the small towns of Nipton, Goodsprings, and Primm. The quest will end once Eddie is dead, but as the Powder Gangers will rush out into the courtyard for the battle, Eddie will most likely be one of the last Powder Gangers alive anyway. Upon initiating dialogue with him, he will give the player character a short "briefing," and the assault will begin. Moralistic answer: Stealing from thieves means you aren't any better than they are. The powder gangers don't have much reach. However, if the player character uses the above method, all the NCR troopers inside the administration center will be hostile to them from that point on (even days or weeks later) if they ever enter the area without an NCR faction disguise equipped. Its called NCR Correctional Facility not Powder Ganger Hotel. This game was very rushed and karma was just one of the things they didn't get to implement or cut. According to the wiki: If you acquired a "shunned" reputation with the Powder Gangers by completing the Ghost Town Gunfight, you will still be able to talk to Eddie in order to receive this quest but assaulting anyone in the prison or gaining another level of infamy will turn the Powder Gangers hostile upon your entrance. (4) Return to Ringo when you're ready for the gunfight with the Powder Gangers. You also get XP for teaching him recipes now. It will take precious little convincing to get Sunny involved, but as she says thereafter, you're still going to need more help. Happens every time. Finally, go back and visit with your old friend Doc Mitchell. When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. By doing this it is also possible to gain the rewards for helping Eddie (300 XP instead of the normal 200), only become shunned (Powder Ganger camps will not attack the player character) by the Powder Gangers (. That pressing issue, of course, is taking on Cobb and his friends. Extensive testing was required for this, so let me know if I missed anything. There's no way around that. He's a businessman at heart, fair but stern, and getting him to help with his supplies is going to be difficult. Though I kill everyone of them save for Boxcars(felt bad for him). Valve Corporation. These enemies, called the Powder Gangers, will have an assortment of weapons at their disposal. Powder gangers shoot me at sight in NCR correctional facility. Society Reworked scripting for Mojave Prison Blues so that it no longer directly edits I Fought The Law. [citation needed], The group engaged in commerce with establishments in Nipton. Raiding_plauges 5 days ago. This was only to get the Sheriff though. The short answer would be that it won't affect your game much. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Included hotfix to prevent crashes in Camp McCarran Concourse under specific circumstances. New unique missile launcher: Expedita. Fixed an infinite dialogue exploit with Floyd. Like Sunny, Doc will be easy enough to convince. I don't have a high Sneak so stealth killing them one by one has never worked for me. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Citizens of the NCR were favorite targets, and they always suffered the worst fates. The first task is to "take care" of a Powder Ganger named Chavez, who Eddie believes is setting up his own crew without permission. The only way to save Goodsprings and still be able to walk into the NCRCF is to never take part in the fight, let the townsfolk kill all gang members. (6) Defeat the Powder Gangers. The Powder Gangers are one of the most gutted factions in the game everyone knows that, so I decided to polish them a little bit and add in some more flavor to their quests. If one wants to help the Powder Gangers or sit back and let the. The only way to save Goodsprings and still be able to walk into the NCRCF is to never take part in the fight, let the townsfolk kill all gang members. Then, every time one wants to talk to Eddie, run in and talk to him before he has a chance to get up. We'll leave the gas station posthaste to do so now, but first, be sure to grab the Boxing Times Magazine from the shelf in the gas station en route. Killing all of Eddie's guards stealthily may allow one to get to Eddie and initiate dialogue without hostilities, as a workaround for the above issue. If you have anything at your disposal from anyone else, now's the time to use all of those goods. The NCR reputation is gained by speaking with Lee after Eddie dies. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HLHqINNuM8Can You Beat Skyrim By Only Using Shouts? As soon as one exits the building, the assault will begin, and NCR troopers pour into the facility and attack. Wielded by Silva himself. IMO, It does not affect the outcome of the main quest. Most people just call it NCRCF. The elegant, powerful, and open-source mod manager, Download and manage all your collections within Vortex, Upgrade your account to unlock all media content, To enjoy the benefits of Nexus Mods, please log in or register a new account. While he'll initially pull a gun on you, he'll calm down, and you can eventually offer to help him deal with his problem. That or they were so unmemborable I forgot them. [7] Eventually, the gangers established a sizable presence outside the prison, with a ring of camps around it, focused on raiding caravans that tried to push through to Vegas and launch attacks to terrorize the local towns of Goodsprings, Sloan and Primm. Copyright 2023 Robin Scott. There are no special requirements to recruit him. The NCR, battered by the loss of the Dam, were unable to devote any troops to retaking the Correctional Facility from the Powder Gangers. The powerful open-source mod manager from Nexus Mods. A state-of-the-art subreddit from Vault-Tec. This goes for all factions. Gameplay wise they do very little. Fixes some blood decals, (hopefully) corrects a progression bug regarding Quarry Junction, edits NPC packages in the Westside base, and adds a new unique helmet to the Mad Minotaur. Hello. Version 1.0. I was not successful that way when I tried to get my infamy deleted with the PG, they still were hostile then. The Powder Gangers (also referred to as Powder Gangsters by Johnson Nash) are a gang of escaped prisoners operating in the Mojave Wasteland in 2281 . The safe for Carter's quest is now only enabled upon starting it, preventing softlock. [3][5] Blasting their way out of the cellblock, they quickly overwhelmed what little NCR personnel were present at the site, killed the warden and established their own rule. And theres only so many ways I can describe killing people, the Paul writing this right now is unsure of how hes gonna handle that. Fallout New Vegas has a command console that can be accessed with the backquote/tilde key (the `/~ key), which will trigger a command input menu to appear on your screen. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/36219/. Speak with her, and you'll be able to engage her in conversation about the plight of Ringo, and taking on Joe Cobb and his gang. One will gain Powder Gangers fame +12. Literally just go ahead and kill all the faction leaders and the game works fine lmao, First time I played through I accidentally did the Yes man ending when I wanted to do ncr. However, these are entirely optional side quests, so it's not that big a deal. This means the mod will no longer conflict with other mods that edit I Fought The Law. The powerful open-source mod manager from Nexus Mods. Probably has something to do with the game being shipped after less than 2 years in production lol. He will tell the player character to rendezvous with Sergeant Lee, located just to the south east of the prison (on a hill, approximately in line between Powder Ganger camp south and the prison). A large contingent of Powder Gangers can be found in Vault 19, under the leadership of Samuel Cooke, although there they are identified as escaped convicts. There is also the ability to recruit Victor to assist and this lightens the load further. Valve Corporation. The second person on your list should be Chet at the general store directly next to the Prospector Saloon. Thanks for the quick response. Hi everyone. But more importantly, none of them matter. Even with neutral reputation some PG attack me on sight. The bodyguard next to the merchant and every guard in the admin building recognises you, so you cannot shop or do the quests for them. Commenting on the differences between the Fallout: New Vegas Powder Gangers and the 215 Rail Line Powder Gang, Joshua Sawyer stated that the Van Buren faction had much more developed characters and were to play a larger role, while in Fallout: New Vegas, their focus in the game was greatly diminished.[17]. If one has low Intelligence when reporting to Eddie after dealing with the bounty hunter, the player character will say "I got rid of the bunny hunter.". When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. Also reduced number of hostile raiders in the finale by 25%. However, even in Nipton before the massacre, the group visited opposite the NCR, the troopers at night, and gang members during the day, to avoid conflict. Xbox Game Pass Is Having its Best Stretch Ever, The Simpsons Hit and Run Designer Wants to See a Remake - IGN Daily Fix. Many remain in the prison and have been raiding surrounding areas under the leadership of Eddie. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNV_PowderGanger_YouEyeballingMe.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNV_Trudy_ProblemIs.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNV_PowderGanger_GotAPresentForYou.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNV_PowderGanger_YoullPayFor.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNV_PowderGanger_NeverGetsOld.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNV_PowderGanger_AnyLawman.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNV_PowderGanger_RunningLowOnSmokes.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-NCRCF_23_1.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-NCRCF_23_2.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-NCRCF_23_3.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-NCRCF_23_4.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-Vault19_24_1.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-Vault19_24_2.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-Vault19_24_3.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:FNVending_PG-Vault19_24_4.ogg, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide faction profiles, NCR Correctional Facility terminal entries; Warden's terminal, [Guard transfers to the east. So, let's get to it. Fixed an issue where Hannigan and Carter could cause game lag. You could restart and do the quest without killing any Powder Gangers. I took that one because the strength will help with weapon handing. Just kill everyone, the Powder Gangers aren't really important. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TzSmz3BokECan You Beat Fallout 4 With Only A Commie Whacker? All rights reserved. New quests and weapons that are accessible even if the vanilla Powder Gangers already hate your guts! And Bruiser adds 2 points to Strength while reducing melee attack speed by 20%. All rights reserved. Added NPC textures, to fix the NPC Head-Body mismatch bug (thanks to laserblood for providing a fix). If Lee dies during the assault, no NCR reputation will be gained. Made some edits that remove conflicts with The Living Desert innately (renders patch redundant). The new texture was provided by usernamegottaken.Vanilla NPC's voiced using a combination of NVVASynth and spliced lines retrieved using Lazy Voice Finder.The community, for its modding tutorials.My wonderfully supportive partner, who is the most dedicated alpha tester I'll ever know. The elegant, powerful, and open-source mod manager, Download and manage all your collections within Vortex, Upgrade your account to unlock all media content, To enjoy the benefits of Nexus Mods, please log in or register a new account. Kids are like members of my discord server, theyre now allowed to die and Yes Man respawns infinitely. Added a missing audio line for Hannigan. Obviously, VATS will be a huge help here, but if you're out of action points, you'll need to resort to some old-fashioned first-person action to get the job done. These are the consequences for doing so. I know there are missions you can get from them at the NCRCF, but I get shot on site. This provided an opportunity that the inmates seized to stage a prison break. You will need to seek permission from, You can upload this file to other sites but you must credit me as the creator of the file, You are allowed to modify my files and release bug fixes or improve on the features so long as you credit me as the original creator, You are not allowed to convert this file to work on other games under any circumstances, You are allowed to use the assets in this file without permission as long as you credit me, Asset use permission in mods/files that are being sold, You are not allowed to use assets from this file in any mods/files that are being sold, for money, on Steam Workshop or other platforms, Asset use permission in mods/files that earn donation points, You are allowed to earn Donation Points for your mods if they use my assets, Working on the Chain Gang - A Powder Ganger Quest Mod (CHS). Wear a powder ganger outfit to get in the prison. 00101F42 #2 Silverio Dec 29, 2014 @ 5:10am Thanks for the quick response. Powder Gangers are members of the Powder Gangers living in the Mojave Wasteland in Fallout: New Vegas . Offers a reason for non-evil characters to begin "I Fought The Law". What you can also do is kill Dawes and run away and hide. After the traveling merchant has been revealed, his name will change to bounty hunter. Not a bug. What happened is: Guards can recognize you even if you're wearing faction armor, so that's why Dawes goes hostile. (reference begins at 8:29:51), This page is about the Powders Gangers faction. Changes the Powder Gangers outfits to look a little bit better.